Wednesday, November 09, 2005


Prop 2 Austin (Travis County) Stats and Commentary

Travis County voted against Prop 2:

For: 54,198 (40.04%) Against: 81,144 (59.95%)

but, the rest of Texas (excluding Travis) approved Prop 2 by a landslide:

For: 1,658,625 (78.51%) Against: 454,109 (21.49%)

The Houston Chronicle quotes Rep. Warren Chisum: "That's where the victory was won, from the pulpits of the state of Texas" If Chisum's remark is true, then, in general, the majority voters presumably justified their decision with a moral argument based on scripture. The article continues:
Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, said the outcome was not unexpected. "When you put a fundamental right of a minority up for popular vote, it's almost impossible to win," said Foreman.
History has shown that to be true, but there's even a bigger hurdle. Gay marriage is public. It is out in the open and it is cheap for people to attack. Even though pornography is similarly condemned by the pulpit, it is too expensive to attack because it is done in private. So, pornography is protected by its private nature and this opens up the possibility that those who are condemning gay marriage in the voting booth may be hypocritically engaging in behavior that is also condemned by the pulpit, albeit with much less vigor and political will.

We can easily look up this data. As it turns out, as of today, according to, there is a virtual tie in traffic between (ranked 199) and (ranked 200). Conclude what you will.

It kind of hurts my stomach to think I reside on a little island of common sense surrounded by a red sea swarming with blood thirsty, gay-bashing, great white bigot-sharks.

Pretty soon, I will need a passport to leave Austin. It will be one of those tiny countries few "base" people have ever heard of like Andorra or Monaco.
Let's see, Ashley...

A majority of Texans voted according to their moral / religious convictions...and because of this, you feel entitled (if not obligated) to bash and condemn their religious views.

It, by voting their morals, they are "blood thirsty, gay-bashing, great white bigot-sharks"...they by voting your morals, does that make you a "Christian-hating, intolerant, Left-wing nubjob"?

(FYI --- I'm not a Christian, and I voted NO on Prop 2...I just don't hate people because they believe and vote their religious principles).
Hi Robbie,

I'm obviously not speaking for Ashley, but there are subtle but important differences here. First, t's like George Carlin said, "People are great until they form into groups." It's when people are immersed into their group psychology that they become "blood thirsty, gay-bashing, great white bigot-sharks."

Second, there is nothing moral about convictions that would isolate a minority of the community. Moral is an Orwellian term today.

Third, Jesus said nothing about homosexuality and refuted much of the bible upon which this group justifies their opression with. For instance, Jesus clearly refuted capital punishment but you wouldn't know that from talking to a majority of those who claim to be Christian.

Fourth, I think it is okay to be intolerant. The difference is that while the so-called the Christian group promotes intolerance of people's private affairs, I think it is fine to be intolerant against actions that weaken the community, actions like imposing a climate of fear. That kind of intolerance against the sabotage of communities is justified.
My sentiments exactly, Tom.
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